One insider said: 'Andrew is insisting on having a job despite being made to stand down from his duties and now he's being kicked out of his home,' according to The Mirror. ``People who work with horses, they love 'em, rub 'em, pet 'em, and at the same time they can be firm with 'em, jerk their bits if they need to,' Hege said. Pennsylvania troopers will take her to Bethlehem, Pa., today. Why is this even a question, why people are trying to take out killers into society? Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. Not sure why anyone is defending her. This woman was obsessed and jealous. But Im sure that was just a coincidence LOL. The Irish-Italian girl had full, fluffy dark hair, olive skin, and a pretty face. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. I saw lots of her defenders saying that he got the hairs from a hairbrush of hers that he had somehow saved, which I thought was absolutely ridiculous. Prosecutors offered Patricia a plea deal that would take the death penalty off the table, but she declined. All Filters. I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. Testimony from Walter Blalock contradicted Patricias claim that she never had a gun. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. And its argued that it has been and dismissed as insignificant or irrelevant. So where they alive somewhere, and if so how could of Patricia, who was questioned, with not one mark on her kill them? She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. When the cheerleading coach broke the news to Katrina Kohel that she was the only one left on the cheer squad, Kohel was determined to compete anyway. Four months after Joanns disappearance, farmer Paul Kovalchik reported seeing what at first looked like a pile of clothes on his land in Heidelberg Township woods, about 15 miles from the Katrinaks house. The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been jailed in . Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. Had there been a switch? Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. If they were unable to get a DNA reading the first time, why the need for a second examination? In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. She took out the woman who replaced her. The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. We will automatically post your comment and a link to the news story to your Facebook timeline at the same time it is posted on MailOnline. They found several specimens but not a single one was a match. Andrew Tate 's legal team has claimed he has a tumour as the detained influencer faces another month in a Romanian prison. !) and detractors (This is another bs attempt to free a psycho). They were able to match 5 hairs all the same micro DNA which happened to match the DNA pulled from blood samples Pat gave. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. Im quite happy to accept that ANYONE who makes a TV documentary makes it for money. But I agree with a recent comment.. Why not do a paternity case so just that is done and out of the way. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. Great communicator. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. American mom living in Paris mesmerizes internet after revealing the VERY surprising after-school snack kids eat in France. They lived together in Salisbury Township, Pa., for about two years, but they . They are a joke. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. By. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. Re Sells, the problem viz some serial killers is in exaggerating the number as a badge of honour. Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. Opinion: the ideas that a person or a group of people have about something or someone, which are based mainly on their feelings and beliefs, or a single idea of this type.. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). She likely SUFFOCATED him to get revenge on the babys father who was planning on leaving her. My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. From my point of view, the American police investigations are first hand, and often very poorly done, Ive only seen worse in the British police, which is paradoxical given the laudatory talent of both nationalities, but it is a Scandinavian saying: bigger the mouth, smaller the facts. I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. Hardly an argument, more a figment of your overconfidence in your opinion. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. By posting your comment you agree to our house rules. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Tommy Lynn Sells admitted to killing a 9-10 old boy in Indiana I think and the mom Julie (cant remember her last name) was jailed mainly due to the ex-husband (father of her son) testified and said things that werent true. They added that doctors in Romania and Dubai wrote medical documents which confirmed he has a lesion on his upper right lung, which could be a sign a tumour has developed. (A good point. At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. This witness was never revealed to Rorrers defence. Patricia Rorrer has been portrayed as a bully, petty thief, neglectful horse owner, and heartless killer or a sweet, caring friend railroaded by authorities desperate to solve a double-murder case that snagged worldwide interest. What a contrived case! Sorry not sorry. 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A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. Its definitely getting rougher every day, Andrew told the Morning Call. It would appear you are reading all sorts of interpretations into my comments especially that I have a fragile ego, dented by others whove responded to me! There are those on this very site who express their disappointment she was not executed. Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. It was Patricias hair no question. . Clifford Freeman, since you are already at the top of the list of deluded people not much room left for anyone with an oversized ego such as you apparently have!! Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. They theorize that Andrew Katrinak framed Patricia and that the hostile phone call between Patricia and Joann actually took place not on Dec. 12 as Andrew said but rather on Dec. 7. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I dont think so. Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. Lie detectors are pseudo science. They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. And I have absolutely no sympathy. With Andrew unwilling or unable to pay the going rate, likely to be thousands of pounds per week, Charles has decided to kick the Sussexes out of the five-bedroom Frogmore Cottage and offer the keys to his younger brother, who is resisting. How about the two eyewitnesses that identified her alive days after her disappearance. That woman has no soul. The bodies were nearby, said state police Capt. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? Stable situation. ``I didn't know her back then, but I don't think she could begin to do what she's been accused of doing,' Myers said. Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. Look into it. A spokesperson for Mr Tate told Mail Online that the 36-year-old was taken to a Romanian clinic because he was not allowed to be monitored by his chosen medical team in Dubai. Susan Wright is out of prison after killing her husband in TX. Book her. It has very bad energy. Neighbors saw police cars in her driveway and acquaintances heard rumors about her previous boyfriends.The intrigue peaked Tuesday at 5:50 a.m., when deputies and Pennsylvania State Police surprised and arrested Rorrer, 33, at home. Thank you, this is a very interesting comment. Even though Joanne was supposed to take her mother-in-law for Christmas shopping, she never showed up. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year. More hairs there. From what Ive seen its pretty obvious Patricia did do that to this poor woman and the baby. Thats not proof theyre right but its more likely that you as one person are wrong. He said his heart drops a couple of feet every time it rings. Probably by the jeans and the boots. The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. Neely's motion on Rorrer's behalf argues that new information from the lab reports show the samples had no roots, while the testing that identified the strands as Rorrer's showed they had roots, The Morning Call reports. Do you want to automatically post your MailOnline comments to your Facebook Timeline? Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. King Charles is planning to cut the Duke's annual . And Patricia wasnt all edges. Barry Grube, one of the few, if not only, police officers sympathetic to Patricias cause, noted that Andrew didnt seem particularly frantic while authorities searched desperately for his wife and son. Pal stays true. Some friends and neighbors find that hard to believe. My husband passed away of a broken heart, Sarah OConnor said on the Montel Williams Show in 2001. The longer it took to find the bodies the easier it would be for her alibis to be believed as it wouldve been harder for people to remember if she was at a dance class etc that she regularly attended on that specific date. Forensic tests suggested the hair found in the car and at the murder scene came from Patricia. Flaw in reasoning. Discuss and express opinion; stop short of asserting that those of the other view (that of judge and jury, at least) are ignorant of facts and wrong, and youre right, because by definition its reasonable for lay people to accept the jury verdict.